Outsourcing student email to Google or Microsoft: Some thoughts

The campus where I work is thinking of outsourcing student email. This in itself could be a good thing- the student email, as it it exists, sucks. Most students that we work with in the Center don’t use it. The majority use a free webmail service, and of those, most use Gmail. Our students are not representative of the student body at large, though- they tend to have a good amount of technical skills. Yesterday and today I sat in on presentations given by Microsoft and Google on the services they can bring to campus. I have a lot to say about the presentations themselves, which I will talk about some other time (either here or on os-agnostic depending on how ranty I am feeling) but right now I just want to talk about the products Google and Microsoft offered and some thoughts on outsourcing email.

I will say that I am not a typical student (I’m not a student of UNL at all) – I use Linux at home, I try new applications on a very regular basis, I am committed to open source and open standards. I have talked to several students, though, and I am a student myself, and currently have the joy of having to use web based Outlook for my student email through Missouri-Columbia.

The first thing that immediately came to mind after I watched both presentations was: Google looks easy, Microsoft looks hard. I wish I had attended the tech meetings for the two companies, maybe then I could get a better idea of how easy or hard integration would be. Just as far as usability goes, though, Microsoft Live looks complex, has lots of options, and generally suffers from the same kind of feature bloat we have come to expect from Microsoft products. This could be a good thing, if you are a long time Microsoft user. You already know where things are and what features to look for. But if you are not a Microsoft user, this can be very annoying. Google, on the other hand, looked clean with a few well chosen features.

Both services offer POP/IMAP email access- so if you don’t want to use the web email interface, you don’t have to. That said, I can’t ignore my preference for Gmail. The email threading feature alone has made the switch to Gmail absolutely worth it. The Microsoft interface is very nice looking, but looked slow and clunky and, of course, the “premium” version only works with Internet Explorer. If you use any other browser, you get a stripped down “lite” version. It is true that Gmail, too, has a stripped down HTML version, but I can get to both Gmail versions from most of my browsers.

Both services offer 24×7 tech support. Both services offer no advertising to current students. It was my understanding that alumni get advertising. Google mentioned faculty and staff frequently, and it was clear that they would love to take over all the campus’s email. Microsoft spoke a lot about integrating with our existing faculty and staff email and calendaring service (Lotus Notes), although he did make a couple of overtures to the fact that he’d love to switch us to Outlook. The Microsoft guy, of course, talked a lot about exchange and how standard it is and how well it works with existing systems.

In fact, the main thing Microsoft has going for it at this point is that it can integrate rather well with existing email applications. Microsoft email can tap into the existing global address books and provide student address books to the traditional email. From a tech point, this could be a deal breaker, I’m not sure. I think most students won’t have a problem with quickly looking for a faculty member’s email address on www.unl.edu, but faculty members are quite used to being able to access student email addresses from inside the email client.

Google, on the other hand, has collaborative features going for it. Microsoft offers collaboration via Microsoft Office Live – which requires students use Microsoft Office if they want to edit online documents. According to the Microsoft guy, Office Live documents are versioned every 12 hours or when you tell them to, rather than every time you make an edit like in Google Docs. The sharing features are just clunky in Office Live, especially compared to Google Docs’ simple interface. Google just wins in the matter of collaboration, hands down. Teachers should never have to tell students to go out and by Word to effectively collaborate.

Google talked a lot about outsourcing IT, while Microsoft talked about integrating IT into existing structures. I got the impression that the Microsoft way might mean more job security for IT employees, which is probably not accidental: IT’s perceptions of a product play heavily into these decisions, and if they say no a project is out. Google said IT people would be freed to work on more innovative technology uses, which sounds good in theory.

One thing that definitely left an impression on me (and this is where my biases come into play) is that the Google guy talked a lot about open standards and working across platforms – he always said Mac, PC and Linux. Most people just pretend no one uses Linux. Microsoft, on the other hand, treated non-Microsoft users as second class and almost non-existent. At one point, someone asked what the Microsoft solution would be like for Linux users, and the Microsoft presenter said (not quoting because I don’t have an exact quote) well, Linux users are mostly desktop client email users anyways, and they can still access the lite version of the web mail, which will probably be fine for them. He then went on to generalize about Mac users and how they need a very simple user experience, because they aren’t very technical. I found this funny since most of the more techie people I know use macs, but I digress. Another person asked if the Microsoft Office Live collaboration features would work with the Mac version of Office, and the presenter didn’t know.

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It also became painfully clear that Microsoft expects others to do the R&D to make their web mail platform browser agnostic. The Microsoft presenter mentioned several times that they were working with the Firefox people to get them to change Firefox so the Microsoft web mail would work. They said they’re working with “our friends in Cupertino” to make Safari work better, but that Apple was not as cooperative. This really bugged me- it’s the web application developer’s job to make the site work for the browser, not the other way around. He also said Safari doesn’t use javascript, which of course isn’t true.
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OK, now that have that out of my system…

One thing I did like about Microsoft’s presentation is that the presenter said that some schools have chosen to use both Google and Microsoft systems. Google didn’t mention this.

A few other small differences

Google

  • Lets you brand with the university icon.
  • Provides a start page (iGoogle, pretty much).
  • Is working with open source course management systems like Sakai and Moodle
  • Will let pretty much anyone associated with the university get a branded email, including parents of students, etc., though only current students and staff will get ad free interfaces.
  • Went over privacy policy fairly well – “we do not claim ownership of your data.”

Microsoft

  • Also talked about a service called “Skydrive” – basically an online thumbdrive. 1 gig for now, more later.
  • Seemed to think everyone uses MSN messenger. (?)
  • Did live demo of products, which Google didn’t do.
  • IT has more control- can go in and trace emails, see if one was sent, etc. Not sure if they can do this with Google- but would they want to?
  • Microsoft’s calendar will support iCal format.

What I want

I’m still not 100% sure on the idea of student email outsourcing, but from a pricing standpoint, it makes so much sense that it is probably inevitable. I do love the Google suite of products, and I really like that they play a little nicer with different OS’s, so I hope they either choose Google or leave the choice up to the students. I have a hunch most students will choose Google, but maybe not- in any case, it should be the student’s choice. In my ideal world, the student would be able to get a free for life POP/IMAP address that could be used with any email program and was not tied to an outside service, but I suppose I’m just dreaming on that front, huh?

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5 Responses to Outsourcing student email to Google or Microsoft: Some thoughts

  1. Megan says:

    Thanks for these great notes! Did Google talk at all about Google Groups and whether or not they’d ever include that in their application suite (email/calendar/docs)? I’m curious.

  2. karin says:

    Megan – Yes, Google talked about the other productivity applications, which would all be branded under “Google Apps” for your domain.

    They also talked about collaborating with other institutions using team edition. I was a little unclear how the faculty and staff will collaborate (since they’ll keep the old lotus system)- I assume they’ll just use all the Google product features except Gmail, and pick a Google apps username. I, for one, would be happy to switch to Gmail over Lotus notes!

  3. Gene says:

    I wish I had gone to these presentations, but ultimately I just want Google email all over campus for employees and students.

  4. Kevin says:

    In regards to your desire for a lifetime POP/IMAP address, I am fairly certain both services provide POP access to their mail. They both support iCal as well so if students really wanted to, they could use about any e-mail and calendar client that they choose… Or maybe I misunderstood your meaning.

    I like how you mentioned the possibility of giving students a choice between services and/or using both services. From an IT perspective I don’t know that this would be easy to implement with e-mail itself, but for the rest of the apps I think it would provide a definite benefit. Another boon is that I am pretty sure both systems support single sign-on through active directory (and other services, but we mostly use AD here on campus). So by writing a small wrapper that integrates with the single sign-on APIs for both services, students could log in one time and access their e-mail, Google Apps, and Microsoft’s online applications (Skydrive, Office Live Workspaces, etc).

    Google also mentioned that they intend to release a wiki of some sort for Google Apps in the near future. This could provide an incredible tool enabling students and faculty alike to collaborate online. Granted, right now the Blackboard system we use has wiki functionality, but it’s pretty poorly implemented. That’s my impression from limited experience with it at least. Blackboard’s wiki is also on a per-class, per-semester basis. With a Google Apps wiki, I’m assuming you could have wikis that span classes over multiple years and serve as a sort of knowledge base for classes here at the university.

    On a mostly unrelated note, you were probably already aware of this, but the University has decided to stop offering Sakai for use on campus in favor of just using Blackboard. I’ve been at the University for the entirety of the “trial” of Sakai but never even heard about it until they decided to stop offering it. I’m pretty curious how much of the faculty/students on campus actually knew about the choice. Anyway, the press release is here: http://is.unl.edu/draft/sakai.shtml

  5. James Behnke says:

    I’m the IT Director for a K-8 school district and was considering Google apps for our district e-mail at one point. We purchased “FirstClass”, and product from OpenText, after we learned about new laws that require schools to be able to produce archived e-mails as a matter of public record (our attorney said that we needed to archive EVERYTHING that comes in or out via e-mal for SEVEN YEARS). Google just recently announced a 90-day retention capability.

    As private institutions, I suppose that these laws don’t apply to colleges. Some local K-12 network admins that I know have a conspiracy theory that these new archiving laws were pushed through by software companies who want to sell more expensive e-mail solutions to schools (who can least afford the software or the required tech support).

    I like Google apps and agree with the notion that there are many other things that I could be doing that would more productive and interesting than managing a e-mail server (grants, training, researching new products, etc.).

    I’m not a fan of Microsoft (I use a Mac, BTW – as do many network administrators that I know) and would personally like to see Google knock them down a few notches. I’m tired of paying licensing fees for Office and have tried (unsuccessfully) to convince my district to switch to OpenOffice. I really wish that more schools would take advantage of Google’s product and switch to free, open standards-based products.